{"id":122504,"date":"2009-07-30T08:51:00","date_gmt":"2009-07-30T08:51:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/weblogs.madrimasd.org\/\/Empleo_madrimasd\/archive\/2009\/07\/30\/122504.aspx"},"modified":"2009-07-30T08:51:00","modified_gmt":"2009-07-30T08:51:00","slug":"la-voz-de-los-doctorandos-en-doc-careers-2-de-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.madrimasd.org\/blogs\/Empleo_madrimasd\/2009\/07\/30\/122504","title":{"rendered":"La voz de los doctorandos en DOC-CAREERS (2 de 2)"},"content":{"rendered":"<link rel=\"File-List\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5Cjcapitel%5CCONFIG%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtml1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml\"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument>  <w:View>Normal<\/w:View>  <w:Zoom>0<\/w:Zoom>  <w:HyphenationZone>21<\/w:HyphenationZone>  <w:PunctuationKerning\/>  <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas\/>  <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false<\/w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>  <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false<\/w:IgnoreMixedContent>  <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false<\/w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>  <w:Compatibility>   <w:BreakWrappedTables\/>   <w:SnapToGridInCell\/>   <w:WrapTextWithPunct\/>   <w:UseAsianBreakRules\/>   <w:DontGrowAutofit\/>  <\/w:Compatibility>  <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4<\/w:BrowserLevel> <\/w:WordDocument><\/xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState=\"false\" LatentStyleCount=\"156\"> <\/w:LatentStyles><\/xml><![endif]--><br \/>\n<style><!-- \/* Font Definitions *\/ @font-face\t{font-family:Tahoma;\tpanose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;\tmso-font-charset:0;\tmso-generic-font-family:swiss;\tmso-font-pitch:variable;\tmso-font-signature:1627421319 -2147483648 8 0 66047 0;} \/* Style Definitions *\/ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal\t{mso-style-parent:\"\";\tmargin:0pt;\tmargin-bottom:.0001pt;\tmso-pagination:widow-orphan;\tfont-size:12.0pt;\tfont-family:Tahoma;\tmso-fareast-font-family:\"Times New Roman\";\tfont-weight:bold;\tmso-bidi-font-weight:normal;}@page Section1\t{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;\tmargin:70.85pt 85.05pt 70.85pt 85.05pt;\tmso-header-margin:36.0pt;\tmso-footer-margin:36.0pt;\tmso-paper-source:0;}div.Section1\t{page:Section1;}--><\/style>\n<p><!--[if gte mso 10]>\n\n<style> \/* Style Definitions *\/ table.MsoNormalTable\t{mso-style-name:\"Tabla normal\";\tmso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;\tmso-tstyle-colband-size:0;\tmso-style-noshow:yes;\tmso-style-parent:\"\";\tmso-padding-alt:0pt 5.4pt 0pt 5.4pt;\tmso-para-margin:0pt;\tmso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt;\tmso-pagination:widow-orphan;\tfont-size:10.0pt;\tfont-family:\"Times New Roman\";\tmso-ansi-language:#0400;\tmso-fareast-language:#0400;\tmso-bidi-language:#0400;}<\/style>\n\n<![endif]--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\"><b>Volvemos a ocuparnos de laexperiencia de los doctorandos que, gracias al proyecto DOC-CAREERS del EUA,han podido disfrutar de estancias de investigaci\u00f3n de hasta tres a\u00f1os en unaempresa. Esta vez, les dejamos hablar con voz propia.<\/b><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<link rel=\"File-List\" href=\"file:\/\/\/C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5Cjcapitel%5CCONFIG%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtml1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml\"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri=\"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags\" name=\"place\"><\/o:smarttagtype><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri=\"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags\" name=\"City\"><\/o:smarttagtype><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument>  <w:View>Normal<\/w:View>  <w:Zoom>0<\/w:Zoom>  <w:HyphenationZone>21<\/w:HyphenationZone>  <w:PunctuationKerning\/>  <w:ValidateAgainstSchemas\/>  <w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>false<\/w:SaveIfXMLInvalid>  <w:IgnoreMixedContent>false<\/w:IgnoreMixedContent>  <w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false<\/w:AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>  <w:Compatibility>   <w:BreakWrappedTables\/>   <w:SnapToGridInCell\/>   <w:WrapTextWithPunct\/>   <w:UseAsianBreakRules\/>   <w:DontGrowAutofit\/>  <\/w:Compatibility>  <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4<\/w:BrowserLevel> <\/w:WordDocument><\/xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:LatentStyles DefLockedState=\"false\" LatentStyleCount=\"156\"> <\/w:LatentStyles><\/xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]><object classid=\"clsid:38481807-CA0E-42D2-BF39-B33AF135CC4D\" id=ieooui><\/object>\n\n<style>st1\\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) }<\/style>\n\n<![endif]--><br \/>\n<style><!-- \/* Font Definitions *\/ @font-face\t{font-family:Tahoma;\tpanose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;\tmso-font-charset:0;\tmso-generic-font-family:swiss;\tmso-font-pitch:variable;\tmso-font-signature:1627421319 -2147483648 8 0 66047 0;} \/* Style Definitions *\/ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal\t{mso-style-parent:\"\";\tmargin:0pt;\tmargin-bottom:.0001pt;\tmso-pagination:widow-orphan;\tfont-size:12.0pt;\tfont-family:Tahoma;\tmso-fareast-font-family:\"Times New Roman\";\tfont-weight:bold;\tmso-bidi-font-weight:normal;}a:link, span.MsoHyperlink\t{color:blue;\ttext-decoration:underline;\ttext-underline:single;}a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed\t{color:purple;\ttext-decoration:underline;\ttext-underline:single;}@page Section1\t{size:595.3pt 841.9pt;\tmargin:70.85pt 85.05pt 70.85pt 85.05pt;\tmso-header-margin:35.4pt;\tmso-footer-margin:35.4pt;\tmso-paper-source:0;}div.Section1\t{page:Section1;}--><\/style>\n<p><!--[if gte mso 10]>\n\n<style> \/* Style Definitions *\/ table.MsoNormalTable\t{mso-style-name:\"Tabla normal\";\tmso-tstyle-rowband-size:0;\tmso-tstyle-colband-size:0;\tmso-style-noshow:yes;\tmso-style-parent:\"\";\tmso-padding-alt:0pt 5.4pt 0pt 5.4pt;\tmso-para-margin:0pt;\tmso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt;\tmso-pagination:widow-orphan;\tfont-size:10.0pt;\tfont-family:\"Times New Roman\";\tmso-ansi-language:#0400;\tmso-fareast-language:#0400;\tmso-bidi-language:#0400;}<\/style>\n\n<![endif]--><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\">He tomadoseis testimonios del punto 3.5.2 del <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eua.be\/fileadmin\/user_upload\/files\/Publications\/DOC-CAREERS.pdf\">informefinal <\/a>(<i style=\"\">The Collaborative DoctoralExperience \u2013 Views of Doctoral Candidates and Holders<\/i>). Voy a abstenerme decomentar, prefiero que se\u00e1is los lectores del blog y los usuarios del portal deempleo quienes relacion\u00e9is estos testimonios con vuestras propias opiniones yexperiencias. Para agilizar la lectura he a\u00f1adido, adem\u00e1s de las negritas en eltexto, un t\u00edtulo en forma de pregunta a cada testimonio. NO SE TRATA DE UNAENTREVISTA.<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: center;\" align=\"center\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">T1: \u00bfQu\u00e9 habilidadesespec\u00edficas se desarrollan en el entorno privado?<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">\u00abI obviously hope to attain a PhD in Chemistry aswell as gaining <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">general skills<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\"> such as <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">report writing<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">,<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">dataanalisis<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">presentation skills<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">teaching skills<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">(through lab demonstrating), <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">meeting deadlines<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">, <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">perseverance<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">in problem solving\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: right;\" align=\"right\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">Doctorandoen qu\u00edmica<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">T2: \u00bfC\u00f3mo se accede a laformaci\u00f3n en la empresa?<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">\u00abI have access to the training I need but it is on avoluntary basis. I have the sensation that I have better training than a <i style=\"\">normal<\/i> doctorate but <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">only if I searchfor it<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: right;\" align=\"right\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">Doctorandoen ingenier\u00eda y tecnolog\u00eda<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: right;\" align=\"right\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">T3: \u00bfHay alg\u00fan tipo dedificultad a\u00f1adida?<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">\u00abIt was hard (still is, just finished writing up) andI underestimated what it would take, but I have learnt a hell of a lot which Iwouldn\u2019t have if I\u2019d done a straight academic PhD. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">Working with a partnerorganisation both massively enriched the experience but also made it much harder<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: right;\" align=\"right\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">Doctorandoen <st1:city w:st=\"on\"><st1:place w:st=\"on\">Newcastle<\/st1:place><\/st1:city><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: right;\" align=\"right\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">T4: \u00bfCu\u00e1les son lasprincipales desventajas?<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: right;\" align=\"right\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">\u00abDisadvantages \u2013 <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">extra work<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">in terms of preparing reports etc. The format required for working reports wasnot easily transferred for use in PhD so I felt that I had <i style=\"\">written up<\/i> twice. Also, sometimes <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">unrealistic expectations<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">\u2013 expecting a full research project that should have a number of researchersworking on it\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: right;\" align=\"right\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">Doctorandoen <st1:place w:st=\"on\"><st1:city w:st=\"on\">Newcastle<\/st1:city><\/st1:place><o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: right;\" align=\"right\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">T5 \u00bfC\u00f3mo se revisa y redefineel trabajo?<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: right;\" align=\"right\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">\u00ab[\u2026] <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">Progress reviews<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\"> areundertaken annually with the university and the business supervisor isinvolved. These reviews are helpful for <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">monitoring<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">,identifying <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">training needs<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\"> and <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">future work<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: right;\" align=\"right\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">Doctorandoen Ciencias Naturales<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">T6 \u00bfEs \u00fatil hacer undoctorado para consolidar una posici\u00f3n laboral?<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">\u00ab[\u2026] I welcomed the non-academic partner involvementas it bridged the gap between my <i style=\"\">old<\/i>world and the new <i style=\"\">academic<\/i> one.Initially, because of this, I preferred to work at the non-acacemic sponsoroffices and felt I bonded more quickly with staff there than with other PhDcolleagues. Having completed the PhD and returned to full-time work,<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\" lang=\"EN-GB\"> the involvement ofmy non-academic sponsor also helped me secure the role I now have <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">andopened up networks and opportunities I would not otherwise have so readily hadaccess to. I always intended to keep working in the non-academic sector\u00bb<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: right;\" align=\"right\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">Doctor enCiencias Sociales<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: right;\" align=\"right\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\">PD: Antesde firmar este post os recuerdo que la autora del informe es<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\"> Lidia Borrell-Damian<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: right;\" align=\"right\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\"><o:p>&nbsp;<\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"text-align: right;\" align=\"right\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-weight: normal;\" lang=\"EN-GB\">Por JaimeCapitel<o:p><\/o:p><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Volvemos a ocuparnos de laexperiencia de los doctorandos que, gracias al proyecto DOC-CAREERS del EUA,han podido disfrutar de estancias de investigaci\u00f3n de hasta tres a\u00f1os en unaempresa. 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