{"id":23520,"date":"2006-05-18T09:00:00","date_gmt":"2006-05-18T09:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/weblogs.madrimasd.org\/\/astrofisica\/archive\/2006\/05\/18\/23520.aspx"},"modified":"2006-05-18T09:00:00","modified_gmt":"2006-05-18T09:00:00","slug":"francia-y-espana-diferentes-tipos-de-carreras-cientificas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.madrimasd.org\/blogs\/astrofisica\/2006\/05\/18\/23520","title":{"rendered":"Francia y Espa\u00f1a: diferentes tipos de carreras cient\u00edficas"},"content":{"rendered":"<div align=\"justify\">David Barrado y Navascu\u00e9s<\/p>\n<p>Aunque el t\u00edtulo indica que existen carreras cient\u00edficas en ambos pa\u00edses, lamentablemente no estoy muy seguro que as\u00ed sea en el caso espa\u00f1ol. <\/div>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<div align=\"justify\">La reflexi\u00f3n viene de una feliz noticia: la pareja de un compa\u00f1ero ha sacado una plaza de investigador en el pa\u00eds vecino. Curiosamente,&nbsp; el a\u00f1o pasado se present\u00f3 a la convocatoria de investigadores postdoctorales del programa Juan de la Cierva y su solicitud fue rechazada.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bfQu\u00e9 ocurre? \u00bfAcaso el sistema espa\u00f1ol de I+D es m\u00e1s estricto que el franc\u00e9s a la hora de seleccionar un investigador? All\u00ed se consiguen plazas permanentes con algo m\u00e1s de 30 a\u00f1os, cuando aqu\u00ed hay que tener m\u00e1s de 40, y eso si&nbsp; se es afortunado. All\u00ed la competici\u00f3n es abierta. La endogamia, por los casos que conozco, es reducida. Las plazas salen perfiladas, pero no en exceso para no desvirtuar el proceso de selecci\u00f3n. Aqu\u00ed salen plazas con cuentagotas. La endogamia sigue&nbsp; campando a sus&nbsp; anchas en numerosos departamentos. Los derechos de investigadores pre y postdoctorales son muy limitados. Los sucesivos gobiernos no cumplen promesas reales ni compromisos morales (como en el caso de la estabilizaci\u00f3n de los <A href=\"http:\/\/weblogs.madrimasd.org\/astrofisica\/archive\/2006\/04\/03\/17267.aspx\" target=\"_blank\">contratados del programa Ram\u00f3n y Cajal <\/a>). En definitiva, no hay una pol\u00edtica cient\u00edfica que merezca ser llamada as\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>Mi compa\u00f1ero y su pareja, que hasta ahora \u00abdisfrutaban\u00bb de contratos temporales, se marchar\u00e1n en los proximos meses, emigrar\u00e1n hacia mejores lares, m\u00e1s propicios para sus carreras profesionales y para el hijo que esperan. Espa\u00f1a perder\u00e1 a dos investigadores por no haber sabido ofrecer alternativas adecuadas.<\/p>\n<p>\u00bfPor qu\u00e9 somos diferentes?\u00bfEn qu\u00e9 se equivoca la sociedad espa\u00f1ola?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>ENLACES:<br \/><A href=\"http:\/\/weblogs.madrimasd.org\/astrofisica\/archive\/2006\/07\/06\/33961.aspx\" target=\"blank\">Los investigadores del programa Ram\u00f3n y Cajal en el \u00e1rea de Astrof\u00edsica <\/a><br \/><A href=\"http:\/\/weblogs.madrimasd.org\/astrofisica\/archive\/2006\/06\/07\/28659.aspx\" target=\"blank\">R\u00e9quiem por un investigador <\/a><br \/><A href=\"http:\/\/weblogs.madrimasd.org\/astrofisica\/archive\/2006\/05\/18\/23520.aspx\" target=\"blank\">Francia y Espa\u00f1a: diferentes tipos de carreras cient\u00edficas <\/a><br \/><A href=\"http:\/\/weblogs.madrimasd.org\/astrofisica\/archive\/2006\/04\/03\/17267.aspx\" target=\"blank\">A golpes: los investigadores RyC, su estabilizaci\u00f3n y los jueces <\/a><br \/><A href=\"http:\/\/weblogs.madrimasd.org\/astrofisica\/archive\/2006\/02\/18\/13914.aspx\" target=\"blank\">M\u00e1s sobre los investigadores del programa Ram\u00f3n y Cajal&nbsp; <\/a><br \/><A href=\"http:\/\/weblogs.madrimasd.org\/astrofisica\/archive\/2006\/02\/16\/13764.aspx\" target=\"blank\">\u00ab\u00a1Que inventen ellos!\u00bb. Sobre la investigaci\u00f3n y los contratados del programa \u00abRam\u00f3n y Cajal\u00bb <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>David Barrado y Navascu\u00e9s Aunque el t\u00edtulo indica que existen carreras cient\u00edficas en ambos pa\u00edses, lamentablemente no estoy muy seguro que as\u00ed sea en el caso espa\u00f1ol.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":32,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0},"categories":[562,252,60,561],"tags":[],"blocksy_meta":{"styles_descriptor":{"styles":{"desktop":"","tablet":"","mobile":""},"google_fonts":[],"version":4}},"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"David Barrado y Navascu\u00e9sAunque el t\u00edtulo indica que existen carreras cient\u00edficas en ambos pa\u00edses, lamentablemente no estoy muy seguro que as\u00ed sea en el caso espa\u00f1ol. 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